Some observations, province of Friesland, Netherlands, 2015

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Re: Some observations, province of Friesland, Netherlands, 2

Postby Berislav Horvatic » Sat Jan 09, 2016 4:22 pm

By a destroyed habitat.

I don't get it. Snakes just have to come out of their refuges, sooner or later, whether the habitat had
been destroyed or not. They have to thermoregulate, eat, drink,... After all, they are certainly not
AWARE of the destruction of their habitat, so how could THAT issue be any kind of motivation to THEM?
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Re: Some observations, province of Friesland, Netherlands, 2

Postby Jeroen Speybroeck » Sat Jan 09, 2016 9:02 pm

I'll try again.

Detectability can be higher in a destroyed habitat.
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Re: Some observations, province of Friesland, Netherlands, 2

Postby GertJan Verspui » Sun Jan 10, 2016 9:16 am

pfffff, seems like a '1 + 1 = 2'


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Re: Some observations, province of Friesland, Netherlands, 2

Postby Berislav Horvatic » Sun Jan 10, 2016 2:42 pm

Jeroen Speybroeck wrote:Detectability can be higher in a destroyed habitat.

That's highly plausible. But also has nothing whatsoever to do with either "forcing" or stimulating the survivors
to come out of their refuges. See above:
Jeroen Speybroeck wrote:
Jelmer Groen wrote:Data which have been collected so far suggest that this resulted in a relatively high survival rate.

Couldn't this be biased because they're more or less forced to come out?

I'm not a mindreader, I just read what people have written - and react/respond to THAT. A simpleton, sorry.

OK, I got it: They have to come out for their own reasons, and then we spot them more easily in a destroyed
habitat.
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Re: Some observations, province of Friesland, Netherlands, 2

Postby Jelmer Groen » Sun Jan 10, 2016 6:46 pm

Couldn't this be biased because they're more or less forced to come out?


It sure does make things more complicated.

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