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Re: Amphib. & Reptiles DB - country list: HELP

Postby Mario Schweiger » Fri Dec 07, 2012 1:38 pm

Hello,

didnt go to Vienna - my car battery was broken down and I have to buy a new one this afternoon.

So I updated the lists as far I got some country-lists.

Jeroen:
Spain: What is: 58. Podarcis lusitanicus, 59. Podarcis virescens - also in Portugal?

Italy: Lacerta schreiberi?
Pelo. kurtmuelleri?
for sure no H. gemonensis and Rhinechis scalaris (or something new during the last 1 or 2 years?)!

Albania: Darevskia praticola?
Mediod. kotschyi?

Europ. Turkey: Vip. berus?

Are you sure with the H. gemonensis in Macedonia? Would be far outside range!

Montenegro: As far as I know there is written Zootoca lives there, but no true record !?

Mario

EDIT:
Does anybody have species lists of: Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, europ. Russia (east to Ural mountains/river)?
Czech Republic: only Amhibians?
Luxembourg: only Amphibians?
Ukraine:Only reptiles?
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Re: Amphib. & Reptiles DB - country list: HELP

Postby Ilian Velikov » Fri Dec 07, 2012 1:52 pm

Ukraine:Only reptiles?


Mario, you have an article on the amphibians of Ukraine in the database.

P.S. I can't see the 'Choose country' option in the databse now!?
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Re: Amphib. & Reptiles DB - country list: HELP

Postby Aleksandar Simovic » Fri Dec 07, 2012 1:56 pm

Mario Schweiger wrote:
Are you sure with the H. gemonensis in Macedonia? Would be far outside range!

Montenegro: As far as I know there is written Zootoca lives there, but no true record !?



gemonensis is present in Macedonia, I am 100% sure ;)

regarding vivipara: Tomovic, Lj., Ajtic, R., Crnobrnja-Isailovic, J. 2004: Contribution to Distribution and Conservation of
Batrachofauna and Herpetofauna on Bjelasica Mountain in Montenegro

pdf sent to Mario

Cheers :)
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Re: Amphib. & Reptiles DB - country list: HELP

Postby Berislav Horvatic » Fri Dec 07, 2012 3:28 pm

Country: Croatia

MISSING:
Pelophylax kl. esculentus
Proteus anguinus
Triturus carnifex
Ablepharus kitaibelii
Algyroides nigropunctatus


IF you want to include sea turtles as well, then also MISSING are
Caretta caretta
Chelonia mydas
Dermochelys coriacea
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Re: Amphib. & Reptiles DB - country list: HELP

Postby Jeroen Speybroeck » Fri Dec 07, 2012 3:36 pm

Thanks, Liam.

Ilian, yes, the boxes on that page act strange at times... Best to refresh the entire page.
Also, Ilian, can you paste or paraphrase the text on ursinii in that book? I thought I have that section as a PDF (cf. http://testudo.bspb.org/doc/2/PETROV_He ... er2007.pdf) but I cannot find any wording that says this is a false record.

@ Mario, thanks for the checkup !
* Podarcis lusitanicus and Podarcis virescens are the alleged names for the remaining non sensu strictu morphotypes of Podarcis hispanicus, which should be implemented as soon as they become published, but I shouldn't have mentioned them :oops:
* schreiberi in Italy is of course wrong :oops: , but kurtmuelleri is introduced to a large area in the Italian northwest.
I have no knowledge of gemonensis or scalaris in Italy. The latter has been contradicted by the Italian atlas, while the former is even not recorded from Slovenia.
* Darevskia in Albania is also my error. However, kotschyi is clearly mapped for this species by IUCN (http://maps.iucnredlist.org/map.html?id=157281) and http://www.seh-herpetology.org/images/a ... cyrkot.pdf
That doesn't proof it for certain, of course. If this is wrong, I would like to know!
* berus in Turkish Thrace is probably wrong too. BTW, as far as I know there is not a single record of Salamandra for Turkish Thrace !!!
* Yes, I'm sure about gemo in FYROM ;) - honestly, it seems indeed not to be shown on any mapping available. Aleksandar, do you have some source for that?
* I have seen Zootoca vivipara myself in Montenegro :mrgreen: =>
http://www.hylawerkgroep.be/jeroen/index.php?id=45
* Not sure if you have that, but Salamandra atra in Montenegro was recently confirmed by Benny Trapp, and there is a single record (introduced?) for Podarcis tauricus in Montenegro too!
* For Czech republic and Luwemburg, please see Excel file on the FTP site
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Re: Amphib. & Reptiles DB - country list: HELP

Postby Jeroen Speybroeck » Fri Dec 07, 2012 3:41 pm

BiH

Algyroides nigropunctatus
Anguis fragilis
Bombina bombina
Bombina variegata
Bufo bufo
Bufo viridis
Coronella austriaca
Dolichophis caspius
Elaphe quatuorlineata
Emys orbicularis
Hemidactylus turcicus
Hierophis gemonensis
Hyla arborea
Lacerta agilis
Lacerta' s.l. mosorensis
Lacerta' s.l. oxycephala
Lacerta trilineata
Lacerta viridis
Malpolon monspessulanus
Mauremys rivulata
Natrix natrix
Natrix tessellata
Pelobates fuscus
Platyceps najadum
Podarcis melisellensis
Podarcis muralis
Podarcis siculus
Proteus anguinus
Pseudopus apodus
Rana arvalis
Rana dalmatina
Rana graeca
Rana kl. esculenta
Rana lessonae
Rana ridibunda
Rana temporaria
Salamandra atra
Salamandra salamandra
Telescopus fallax
Testudo hermanni
Triturus alpestris
Triturus carnifex
Triturus dobrogicus
Triturus vulgaris
Typhlops vermicularis
Vipera ammodytes
Vipera berus
Vipera ursinii
Zamenis longissimus
Zamenis situla
Zootoca vivipara
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Re: Amphib. & Reptiles DB - country list: HELP

Postby Jeroen Speybroeck » Fri Dec 07, 2012 3:49 pm

Also, morphotype 3 = liolepis
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Re: Amphib. & Reptiles DB - country list: HELP

Postby Berislav Horvatic » Fri Dec 07, 2012 4:17 pm

Jeroen Speybroeck wrote:Countries not in my previous post, as well as some better than what I posted (Slovakia, Czech Republic, Channel Islands, Liechtenstein, Luxemburg, Andorra, Slovenia, FYROM, Serbia, Montenegro, S&MN - triple checked, CroatiaDB, Bosnia-Herzegovina) + the post itself here =>
ftp://ftp.inbo.be/Users/Jeroen_Speybroeck/z/
Also from my part, all your comments on these files verrrrrrrrrry welcome !!!


Jeroen, what is "CroatiaDB", for god's sake?
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Re: Amphib. & Reptiles DB - country list: HELP

Postby Mario Schweiger » Fri Dec 07, 2012 4:23 pm

ok, thanks for all that!
Will update during weekend!

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Re: Amphib. & Reptiles DB - country list: HELP

Postby Jeroen Speybroeck » Fri Dec 07, 2012 4:23 pm

Berislav Horvatic wrote:Jeroen, what is "CroatiaDB", for god's sake?

For God's, your's and anyone's sake, the name of the column in my spreadsheet, saying that this is the version for the database I used to run.
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